Leaders involved in pastoral ministry are expected to do a lot more work than others. Most of the time, they need to sacrifice many personal desires to serve their flock, even in the middle of a challenging situation like a pandemic. Dr. Tracey Jones sits down with Dr. Richmond Wandera, the President of Pastoral Discipleship Network, to look back on the accountant-turned-pastor's ministry in Uganda. Dr. Wandera shares the importance of connecting deeply with the sheep under your care to dismantle loneliness, and how pastors must always revisit their churches' purpose to reinvent them according to the demand of society. He also explains how every sheep under a pastor must be given a chance to lead on their own in order to grow, and how this small step can make churches shine brighter than ever.